friedmetroid Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 So from my time on JP, I've heard quite a few people tell me their ridiculous stories of getting banned from UE. Having never played there personally, I always assumed the stories were exaggerated. However, I think I've got the dumbest one yet. I joined because JP was empty, configured my force, and joined the game. At first I saw their motd saying 'no poking, wiggling, yawing, spinning etc,' and I was like wtf are you serious, so I had to check it again. Then I noticed my FOV was locked at 85, so I said 'wtf why is my fov locked at 85'. I immediately got ampunished and silenced and some admin said 'because you're a tool. go play elsewhere'. I reconned out of the ampunish as there wasn't much point just sitting there, and then I got banned. BANNED. Because I asked why my fov was locked? Seriously, what the fuck? I'd like to hear some other people's retarded ban stories, because you know misery loves company. And I just have to say thank you JP for not being like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasttea Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 You're welcome. You aren't alone in having such experiences, as you yourself mentioned. I don't want us to start publicly bashing UE here, and I haven't been to their server myself; seems like I got another reason not to bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStrategy Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I've gotten banned from there twice. Once for accidentally calling "Tiphani" which sounds more like a Final Fantasy name than an actual name a dude (Turns out it's pronounced "Tiffany", what retard spells it like that?). The second time was for beating one of their gigantic douchebag leaders in a fair fight. I used to remember his name, now I don't. But lets just say he attempted to break his own rules (yaw, poke, wiggle, spin) and I still wrecked him several times over. He wasn't too happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friedmetroid Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 You're welcome. You aren't alone in having such experiences, as you yourself mentioned. I don't want us to start publicly bashing UE here, and I haven't been to their server myself; seems like I got another reason not to bother. You know, normally I'd agree with you, but this kind of behavior doesn't need to be 'bashed', it speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratatat Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I haven't been banned from anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephy Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 UE is one of my most favorite servers to troll on (counting that they cannot ban my Dynamic IP). First time I went on there, they cried out that I was poking, I ignored it, they banned me. I waited a few minutes for the IP to change, then went back on, got banned again, repeated until they range banned me, then I put in place a fake region for my IP, went back on again, and after they realized they could not ban me, they all left (that was partly because I was trolling them at the same time :3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnydillinger Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Got on once, didn't provoke them, didn't do anything crazy and guess what? I wasn't banned. Yeah, I get it, some people are getting banned for no apparent reason according to their stories but what's the point if you're provoking them? They've got stupid rules; cool, but it's their server that they are paying for so if I went there with the intention of proving them wrong about it, how different would I be from those that we punish on our server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space_Dementia Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I like UE server. I played on this server twice or more and wasn't banned. But they don't give a chance to those who are banned. If someone is banned on JP server, they can write on the forum without problems.UE forum seems like they write commercial secrets there. They just don't activate or delete accounts of unwanted people.About rules and settings:it's their server that they are paying for so if I went there with the intention of proving them wrong about it, how different would I be from those that we punish on our server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookjedi Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Got on once, didn't provoke them, didn't do anything crazy and guess what?I wasn't banned.Yeah, I get it, some people are getting banned for no apparent reason according to their stories but what's the point if you're provoking them? They've got stupid rules; cool, but it's their server that they are paying for so if I went there with the intention of proving them wrong about it, how different would I be from those that we punish on our server? That would make sense to some degree if they would ban upon their impossibly retarded rules. I have been there once without tags not doing anything in particular just dueling.I get challenged by one of their members and start a duel with him/her. I win. The response I get is: "You fking cheater you aimbot."I decide not to go down to his/her level of IQ and ignore the comment.It challenges me again and I win again. (No pokingwigglingyawingspinning)Next thing I know I am banned. To my understanding there is no server in JKA where a rule states that you cannot beat the members of the clan which own the server.I lol'ed and never bothered going back since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStrategy Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Got on once, didn't provoke them, didn't do anything crazy and guess what? I wasn't banned. Yeah, I get it, some people are getting banned for no apparent reason according to their stories but what's the point if you're provoking them? They've got stupid rules; cool, but it's their server that they are paying for so if I went there with the intention of proving them wrong about it, how different would I be from those that we punish on our server? Don't judge if you don't know what you're talking about. It isn't that they have odd rules or are strict about their rules, it's that they make up rules at their convenience to specifically ban people they deem as "unfit" to visit their server. JP server was in for repairs one time, so we'd go to different servers. UE had a population boost temporarily making some JP-ers and our regulars at the time hang out there. That is until they started banning anyone with a JP tag on the basis that they didn't like us. Then once everyone figured out to use alternate names without tags, we'd get banned for either the most ridiculous things without warning (I believe I recall one person was banned, and they told us some story, and this person happened to have a log running and they were afk.). Also, my story is unexplainable according to what you're saying. I broke no rule, unless beating someone in a fair duel according to their rules... is breaking the rules? Paradox much? Nevermind they break their own rules at their own convenience, and if you call them on it you're insta-banned. I don't know if they've changed much since I last played, but do not assume that these people are legitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnydillinger Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I wasn't trying to say that everyone or anyone here broke their rules and thus got banned, in fact, I based this post mostly on my server experiences. Whenever someone brings up their server in a conversation, it will always have some people that tells us stories about how they were banned after provoking them or just plain wanting to be banned. See, even here (Mog's post to be precise) there's an example of that, and I have yet to partake in a conversation where I can't hear anyone bragging about how they trolled them/wanted to earn their own bans/etc. The best version of these is this kind: person A goes to their server and basically wreaks havoc just so that they can ban him, then person B from UE bans him for good. Then person A goes to our server and he whines about how he was banned for, say, poking, which is clearly against their rules. Of course, if it's nothing to do with your personal behaviour, then leave it as I'm not talking about you. But if it does, and only you know if it does or not, then you're an attention whore, and not that much different from the rulebreakers from our server, that you probably hate. You're right about me not knowing about their ways of dealing with people, as I've only visited them once. My point was not about their stupid behaviour, it was about the people that can be described by the above paragraph. I am not judging them to be any positive or negative, I judge the ones from the other half that I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Well, I noticed they got some activity, so they must not be banning everyone xD but i guess it could be a problem if some players are used to poke all the time and if they don't always remember these different rules xD I never visited them, so I can't really say anything about them. But if many people complain about them, I guess there are some truth behind the complaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reptar Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Been there many times, never been banned. Beat many of their members in fair duels. Had some decent conversations with some of their members. You guys must be getting the wrong guys on the wrong days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friedmetroid Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm sorry, but I'd like to know how I was provoking anyone by asking why my fov was locked?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asulynn Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 UE makes me think of The Door... Or what is now known as School of War. :faec: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStrategy Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 UE makes me think of The Door... Or what is now known as School of War. :faec: Now that place I earned a ban at... the second time around. First time I didn't. And they're still around? And I think i beat... Kraven, pretty sure that was his name. He used to rage ban people for beating him all the time. I remember even some of his members thought him a douchebag. But The Door... I still have screenies of when we went to that place, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratatat Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 They legitimately own their server and they are allowed to run it as they wish. As you know, JKA is slowing down with activity, either the gameplay isn't up to par with modern games or whatever the reason is, it seems that from all these stories about UE just implies that they don't get their kicks by playing this game as everyone else does. I've seen this a bunch from multiplayer games I've played to the absolute end. Here is the situation, many people quit this game to occupy their time with superior games, some people don't want the game to slip away from them so they keep their servers up for an unreasonable amount of time, UE was a pretty decent sized clan. They took a step from playing this game to messing with the players in the game, if this banning epidemic is actually true. They are taking steps to keep the game interesting to them, and if this bothers you just avoid their server ( again, if this is actually the case, I've yet to see evidence supporting a single claim). If its proven, or if you believe in the stories, then just avoid their server, its not for you. For example: I once logged in to School of War's server, and thought to myself after reading their rules on the splash, "Oh, Guess I will go find someone to duel" because of their no FFA policy. Well, I eventually found someone to duel, but it happens to be in their special room, where only one duel was allowed at a time, there was one already in place and I did not know this rule. So I challenge a random guy and it begins and all of the sudden I'm slept. I ask,"Why am I being slept?" because I wasn't attended to. An Artisan ( I assume that is a rank for a member of the community that owns the server) told me I wasn't allowed to duel here whilst another was in progress. I simply disliked that rule so I left and haven't returned. If someone happens to ask me I will tell them, not in hopes to discourage them from visiting that server, but to answer the question. Again, I haven't provided evidence to support my story, so it matters to what you believe. Who knows, they might even have a secret clan member idea to be a dick to traffic, a rough way to filter whiners from people they want on their server ( Again, their server. It isn't justified to the JP way, but it is to them.) I'm nor defending them or against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyphis Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 UE sounds like a bunch of admin-trolls in my humble opinion. They probably don't give two shits about losing a duel, but they know banning you for a stupid reason like that is going to make you mad. If it happens to you just laugh and ignore it, otherwise successful troll is successful. Or I suppose you could do what Mog did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friedmetroid Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 They legitimately own their server and they are allowed to run it as they wish. As you know, JKA is slowing down with activity, either the gameplay isn't up to par with modern games or whatever the reason is, it seems that from all these stories about UE just implies that they don't get their kicks by playing this game as everyone else does. I've seen this a bunch from multiplayer games I've played to the absolute end. Here is the situation, many people quit this game to occupy their time with superior games, some people don't want the game to slip away from them so they keep their servers up for an unreasonable amount of time, UE was a pretty decent sized clan. They took a step from playing this game to messing with the players in the game, if this banning epidemic is actually true. They are taking steps to keep the game interesting to them, and if this bothers you just avoid their server ( again, if this is actually the case, I've yet to see evidence supporting a single claim). If its proven, or if you believe in the stories, then just avoid their server, its not for you. For example: I once logged in to School of War's server, and thought to myself after reading their rules on the splash, "Oh, Guess I will go find someone to duel" because of their no FFA policy. Well, I eventually found someone to duel, but it happens to be in their special room, where only one duel was allowed at a time, there was one already in place and I did not know this rule. So I challenge a random guy and it begins and all of the sudden I'm slept. I ask,"Why am I being slept?" because I wasn't attended to. An Artisan ( I assume that is a rank for a member of the community that owns the server) told me I wasn't allowed to duel here whilst another was in progress. I simply disliked that rule so I left and haven't returned. If someone happens to ask me I will tell them, not in hopes to discourage them from visiting that server, but to answer the question. Again, I haven't provided evidence to support my story, so it matters to what you believe. Who knows, they might even have a secret clan member idea to be a dick to traffic, a rough way to filter whiners from people they want on their server ( Again, their server. It isn't justified to the JP way, but it is to them.) I'm nor defending them or against them. How could asking why my fov is locked possibly be reasonable criteria for an ampunish and silence under ANY server rules? Especially when I wasn't given any explanation whatsoever? There's no reasoning in the entire world that can justify that, that's just being a douchebag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclops Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 How could asking why my fov is locked possibly be reasonable criteria for an ampunish and silence under ANY server rules? Especially when I wasn't given any explanation whatsoever? There's no reasoning in the entire world that can justify that, that's just being a douchebag. It isnt a matter of whether it was a 'fair' or earned reason to ban, and it's not a debate of whether they're douchebags or not, it's the simple fact that it is their server, and that can be correlated with 'private property'. Free speech..it's a nice thing, and many/most places it's a public right, but once you go on private grounds, their rules are their rules. In all reality, we could ban whoever we wanted, whenever we wanted. But we don't, and that is our decision. That being said, don't go there again When you know the establishment and you have the agency to avoid an unfair establishment, why openly choose to go there/back there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStrategy Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 It isnt a matter of whether it was a 'fair' or earned reason to ban, and it's not a debate of whether they're douchebags or not, it's the simple fact that it is their server, and that can be correlated with 'private property'. Free speech..it's a nice thing, and many/most places it's a public right, but once you go on private grounds, their rules are their rules. In all reality, we could ban whoever we wanted, whenever we wanted. But we don't, and that is our decision. That being said, don't go there again When you know the establishment and you have the agency to avoid an unfair establishment, why openly choose to go there/back there? Ah, but see, they could make up every rule in the world. It's their server, they pay for it, they can legitimately make the most silly rules, or they can even make them up on the spot to get rid of people. Not a very nice way of dealing with people, but yes, I understand and accept it's their right to. But the kicker is they don't follow their own rules most of the time. If a clan does not follow their own rules, just as if a government does not follow their own laws, I think that completely nullifies any legitimacy of that establishment. I did avoid their server for the most part until there wasn't much option, and then I used an alternate name and tried to be polite when I did visit. I got banned for winning in a fair duel where the other player broke his own rules in the attempt to beat me, then banned me afterwards. This wasn't a troll, he was mad. Getting banned for duels was really only a common occurrence there when a couple of them known for it were active, but it was common among these few. I'm not saying it's right to mess with their server, I'm saying they're a bunch of hypocritical, angry cocks that are pathetic enough to have paid for a server for the best part of a decade just to be hypocritical, angry cocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theos Sairin Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 The world is full of people who make up rules on the spot, don't enforce them with certain people and treat some like good mates and then royally screw over other perfectly good people. I should know, I got people like that at work. Everyone does. Just take it as a life lesson because to be perfectly honest you are NOT going to make it through life if you think that every establishment, no matter how private it may be, should be making rules that they should follow. The vast majority of people find it next to impossible to follow their own rules at the best of times. That makes the vast majority of people hypocrites at some point or rather in their life. And on an online fed multiplayer game, you can't seriously expect people to change for that. Some people are dicks. Some people are nice and hang out with complete dicks. You can debate the in's and out's of who does the banning, how unfair it is that you've been banned from that server but at the end of the day it's not going to change anything. You mad, you deal with it. To be perfectly honest if I went to UE and got banned for some completely unjustified reason then I really wouldn't care - it ain't my clan, ain't my server and so I really couldn't care less. Why would I care about not being able to hang out at a place where they quite happily ban people for no reason? And I find it just as pointless to try to analyse the people there, and the clan as a whole. People get shit given by other people every day. It ain't ever gonna change, and this topic is more likely to just turn to some stupid debate about how justified or unjustified their actions are, or how valid the accusations may be. This is JP, not UE. We are nothing like one another. We have our own server, which we run how we see fit. They have their own server that they run how they see fit. Some things just aren't worth debating, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asulynn Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 You could always pull the Sorrow trick and cyber their members. That'll keep you from getting banned. Might even make them look the other way so you can break every rule they can think of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friedmetroid Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 That was my first experience there and I haven't gone back there. And I don't think JP would last too long if you banned people for asking perfectly legitimate questions. I mean yeah, you could still play on your own server, but without any traffic it'd get dull fast and people would lose interest. I'm sure I caught an admin on a bad day or something, but given that's how they treat their traffic I'm amazed anyone plays there. And I didn't start this thread because I'm mad, I started it because I remember hearing other people's ridiculous and funny ban stories (Jonza) from this server and was curious if anyone had one to top mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStrategy Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Some things just aren't worth debating, guys. It wasn't really a debate until srsmode people began beating bongos, doing circle dances, and painting peace signs on their faces. I found this topic to be more of a light-hearted funny topic about a ridiculous server. Anyway you argue about how they do w/e the fuck they want to and they have the right to, they're still ridiculous. It's like trying to argue someone that wears underwear on their head isn't ridiculous cause it's their choice, and they're free to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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